How many tickets for new titles? - Guild Wars Forums

the necro 123134 · Jun 30, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39

I know this is a rather stupid question but....
Can anyone tell me how many tickets it takes(very roughly) to get BOTH of the new titles and which tile is best to afk on?
Thanks alot

Goats17 · Jun 30, 2006, 11:47 AM // 11:47

Which title do you use tickets for?*my bad* didn't check the festival thnig.

shadow ranger · Jun 30, 2006, 12:03 PM // 12:03

Ive got about 1/5th of the new titles so far.

What i WAS using was the corner tiles on the 9 tile minigame, for some reason i just seemed to get more on them, i was 250 tickets up, went afk for an hour and came back 500 down, so now ive switched to the center spot.

The center seems to have a slight decline, but its slight, while everywhere else can have a pretty drastic decline fast.

I bought 1k more tickets, and im gonna see how long that lasts.

From what ive done now id estimate 2k - 3k tickets would get both titles, but i cant be sure.

the necro 123134 · Jun 30, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11

ok thanks alot,i have about 50k cash and 1,500 tickets...will that be enough?

nickthemenace · Jun 30, 2006, 12:16 PM // 12:16

50k will buy you about 3333 tickets, so you should be good.
If the odds of the games are indeed random, you would be better off standing in the corner rings, since you win the same amount of tickets over 9 games, but you lose 6/9 of them, so you build up the loser one quicker.

Meh.

Meeko Shadowdancer · Jun 30, 2006, 01:09 PM // 13:09

But where do you turn in the tickets to get a title? Or is that also for the last day?

Also, where does everyone find this information on needing 250 orbs for the dragon mask?

((lost, dazed and confused = I'm in my normal state of condition!))

EDIT: In answer to my own question...

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Originally Posted by guildwars.com
Update - Thursday June 29

The Dragon Festival has begun! Characters who wish to receive their Dragon Helm must collect 250 Jade Wind Orbs, which can be earned by undertaking quests, competing in the Dragon Arena, or taking part in the festival games. Emperor Kisu will honor us by appearing at the Shing Jea Monastery every 2 hours on the final day of the festival to reward those who have gathered 250 orbs. If you cannot attend the final day of the festival, take heart! The emperor has stationed an Imperial Supplymaster at the monastery, who will stay for a few days after the festival???s end to give Dragon Helms to those who have gathered their 250 orbs.

Wyvern X · Jun 30, 2006, 02:34 PM // 14:34

Statistically, all of the circles give the same payout. There is a slight decline on all of them. You should expect to lose on average 0.5 (0.55555) tickets per game.

For the lucky title, the choice of circle doesn't matter, however for the unlucky title you should stand in the corner as you lose more frequently.

vinegrower · Jun 30, 2006, 03:58 PM // 15:58

[EDIT]on continued evaluation, I may be wrong. Double checking the math...[/EDIT]

[EDIT 2] math checked out, at it confirmed that I should not do math.[/EDIT 2]

Epinephrine · Jun 30, 2006, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Quote from our forum:

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Originally Posted by Tmakinen, citing guildwiki

There are two gambling games available during the Dragon Festival, for the basic description please see their respective Guildwiki entries. In order to obtain the Charmed title, you have to win 50000 tickets, and to obtain the Hapless title, you have to lose 5000 times. Here's a short consideration about the effort needed for the titles.

The Nine Rings game costs you (in average) 5/9 tickets/round and yields 85/9 tickets/round regardless of which circle you choose. However, the losses depend on your choice so that the probability of a loss is 6/9, 5/9 and 4/9 for corner, side and middle rings, respectively. Getting the Charmed title thus requires about 5294 rounds, at an cost of 2941 tickets or 44115 gold, taking about 7 hours 21 min. Getting the Hapless title is fastest in the corner circle, where you have to play about 7500 rounds, use 4167 tickets or 62505 gold, during 10 h 25 min.

The Rings of Fortune costs 1/8 tickets/round and the yield is 15/8 tickets/round and the loss probability is 9/16 regardless of which circle you choose. Thus, getting the Charmed title takes 26667 rounds, 3333 tickets or 49995 gold after 37 h 2 min and the Hapless title is yours after 8889 rounds, 1111 tickets, 16665 gold and 12 h 21 min.

If you want to obtain both titles and want to minimize your cost and effort, then you should play the corner ring of Nine Rings for 4616 rounds then Rings of Fortune for 3419 rounds (which means that Nine Rings will give you about 43600 tickets and Rings of Fortune the rest). That will burn 2992 tickets or 44880 gold, over a period of 11 h 10 min. Compared to the cheapest way of obtaining the Charmed title, you can see that the Hapless title costs almost nothing extra but requires a longer time. Fortunately, you can just load the necessary number of tickets (and some extra for buffer, probability theory suggests something close to the square root of the number of rounds times the average step size, buy up to 1000 extra depending on how often you want to check the progress) on the toon and leave it on a circle.

Good luck

tmarosi · Jun 30, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44

it goes like thi:

to get maximun title for lucky you need to win 2 500 000 tickets (cant be done in this year festival) - it has 5 levels

to get maxumim Unlucky title you need 500 000 game loses (cant be done in this year festival) - it has 5 levels

Oblivion Odyssey · Jul 01, 2006, 08:48 AM // 08:48

Geez those are ridiculous... how would anyone know this though?

Marth Reynolds · Jul 01, 2006, 09:30 AM // 09:30

those numbers are from a translation from the GW taiwanese site, and those far to high IMO (anet wants to make us gambling addicts!)

Meeko Shadowdancer · Jul 05, 2006, 06:28 AM // 06:28

Mathematic's gives me a headache....

Jun 30, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39	#1
the necro 123134 Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006	How many tickets for new titles? I know this is a rather stupid question but.... Can anyone tell me how many tickets it takes(very roughly) to get BOTH of the new titles and which tile is best to afk on? Thanks alot

Jun 30, 2006, 03:58 PM // 15:58	#8
vinegrower Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Song of the Forsaken Profession: E/	[EDIT]on continued evaluation, I may be wrong. Double checking the math...[/EDIT] [EDIT 2] math checked out, at it confirmed that I should not do math.[/EDIT 2] Last edited by vinegrower; Jun 30, 2006 at 04:16 PM // 16:16..

Jun 30, 2006, 11:47 AM // 11:47	#2
Goats17 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: House Zu Heltzer, laughing at them. Guild: The [GEAR] Trick Profession: N/Me	Which title do you use tickets for?my bad didn't check the festival thnig.

Jun 30, 2006, 12:03 PM // 12:03	#3
shadow ranger Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Profession: E/	Ive got about 1/5th of the new titles so far. What i WAS using was the corner tiles on the 9 tile minigame, for some reason i just seemed to get more on them, i was 250 tickets up, went afk for an hour and came back 500 down, so now ive switched to the center spot. The center seems to have a slight decline, but its slight, while everywhere else can have a pretty drastic decline fast. I bought 1k more tickets, and im gonna see how long that lasts. From what ive done now id estimate 2k - 3k tickets would get both titles, but i cant be sure.

Jun 30, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11	#4
the necro 123134 Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006	ok thanks alot,i have about 50k cash and 1,500 tickets...will that be enough?

Jun 30, 2006, 12:16 PM // 12:16	#5
nickthemenace Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: PT Psycho Titans Profession: W/N	50k will buy you about 3333 tickets, so you should be good. If the odds of the games are indeed random, you would be better off standing in the corner rings, since you win the same amount of tickets over 9 games, but you lose 6/9 of them, so you build up the loser one quicker. Meh.

Jun 30, 2006, 02:34 PM // 14:34	#7
Wyvern X Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: E/Mo	Statistically, all of the circles give the same payout. There is a slight decline on all of them. You should expect to lose on average 0.5 (0.55555) tickets per game. For the lucky title, the choice of circle doesn't matter, however for the unlucky title you should stand in the corner as you lose more frequently.

Jun 30, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44	#10
tmarosi Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Croatia Guild: Croatian Maniacs [CM] Profession: Mo/	it goes like thi: to get maximun title for lucky you need to win 2 500 000 tickets (cant be done in this year festival) - it has 5 levels to get maxumim Unlucky title you need 500 000 game loses (cant be done in this year festival) - it has 5 levels

Jul 01, 2006, 08:48 AM // 08:48	#11
Oblivion Odyssey Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: King Of Slaying [Leader] Profession: W/Mo	Geez those are ridiculous... how would anyone know this though?

Jul 01, 2006, 09:30 AM // 09:30	#12
Marth Reynolds Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Guild: The Lore Enforcers Profession: Me/A	those numbers are from a translation from the GW taiwanese site, and those far to high IMO (anet wants to make us gambling addicts!)

Jul 05, 2006, 06:28 AM // 06:28	#13
Meeko Shadowdancer Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Guild: Just Five More Minutes[Plz] Profession: R/Me	Mathematic's gives me a headache....